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Jun 13, 2025

Former Acting Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence & Security Milancy Harris joins FedUpward at Globally’s Shaping America’s Next 25 Summit to talk candidly about her career across intelligence, counterterrorism, and policy roles—and what it really takes to lead in government today.

From navigating bureaucracy to developing talent and fostering public-private understanding, Harris shares clear-eyed advice for federal employees, aspiring leaders, and those curious about working at the highest levels of national security.

00:49 – Meet Milancy Harris: From intel analyst to senior DoD leader
01:31 – What’s broken? Bureaucracy and the roadblocks to good ideas
03:05 – Developing employees: Peer mentoring, training, and listening
05:00 – Podcasts and cross-agency training as growth tools
07:31 – Political appointees vs. career feds: Misconceptions & mindset
09:31 – The best leadership advice? Start with the human touch

Don’t miss this one if you're looking to grow your career in public service—or lead with more heart, strategy, and purpose.

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